Burke: Yes. And their mansion, the White people that owned SS White, the White family, owned right across the creek, there, where the Captains Quarters [private development] are. And thats what they were doing in France to keep from getting it taxed. And it became quite the place to be. And I just got a call from all my lady friends saying that my house is falling apart. The Secret Service, as well as a Cohasset school accounting specialist and the superintendent, are determining how much the operation cost the town. Was her name Mackey? Burke: Well, the house, actually, from the outside, is aoh, shitthe name of it went right out of my head. And underneath it was a whole kitchen and dining room that opened out to under the porch. And they were slate, the roof, and by walking on the slates, they broke and they slid off, and wherever they slid off, the rain poured through because it was holes. So as long as you have people, youre going to have change, and people are going to say, That doesnt work! You buy me out. And he bought me out. And right outside the window right here, is a great big round, thing thats all brickgreat big round thing, big as this room, covered-overand thats where all the water from the drain pipe from the roof would go in there and fill it, and it was called a cistern, and that was connected to the kitchen downstairs. And not only that, we got a lot of manureI used to have it to put on all the gardens and to put on the fields and whatnot. How the hell they got to the right people, I dont know. Because back when they built the houses, kitchens were never built in the house. And Ill invest in a couple of other things that will give me a nice little income, and I wont have to worry about it. Then upstairs, was all the bedrooms. Im only a salesman in a department store. I said, and its going to take a lot of money to put that house back together. She said, Well, Im going to help you all I can. And I said, But why would I fix a house I didnt own? And she said, Well, why dont we talk about that. She said, If youre interested in buying it, I will make the arrangements that you can own it. Do you remember that? Always, in that vase in the hall. Wow, what a great place. I said, now here you are, the woman we always wondered about, asking me if Im interested in saving that house? But I was glad that I got this. And then I was able to get all my stuff out of storage and out of peoples homes where I stored them, and furnished the house and moved and lived in the whole house, took care of it. I mean, how did you decide what to purchase, what to collect? Lots of photos, costs, everything. Burke: Oh, God, I stood on the edge here and I watched what was going on over there. Burke: Its never finished! Right across the creek. He was predeceased by his mother Lena Russo-Tredici. Because the other way, my uncle was digging into whatever a little bit of savings he had, in order to pay. February 26, 2023 (70 years old) View obituary. And so shes got the bridge, and it costs money. Q: I wanted to ask, also, theres a painting of you in the house, right? Devoted father of Matthew I. Burke, Jason L. Burke, and Georgina. You cant ride anywhere but in a circle arena. I said, Where are you? She said, Well, I moved out years ago and went back to Georgia. Thats how I got to know Adriana Scalamandr and the Scalamandrs. If you want to come, behave yourselves. The mansion, oh god. Thats the only thing people could bring. Burke: And all the others like it, well, I can remember, on the other side of the pond over there, going alongthe mansions that were over there. Thats whats in this whole house, all the things you see. Shit. So a couple of days later, I have a dream. Staten Island, Richmond County, NY Genealogy Site - Staten Island Recent Obituaries You know, nobody wanted to end it but nobody wanted to, say, Lets do it. And I wanted these little chairs tufted but he had passed away before he could get around to tuft. Thats why I did what I did, because I figured that if anything ever happens to me, all of this, now, will have to stay as it is. Theres too much business going on here. So were talking about this and talking about this. Q: Was that house that you restored in a similar condition as this house? So we need to get help. Staten Island, New York. Brother Celestine George Burke, an educator who was a member of the Brothers of the Christian Schools for 63 years, died on Thursday at Riverview Medical Center in Red Bank, N.J. . Yes, and I had bought the house, but I couldnt have the house and move in until she died. I, being the youngest, of course, seeing everybody growing up. He was the top interior designer in New York. One day, he was gone. But when I die, they say theyre going to make a museum out of it. Q: [Laughs] Yes. And I looked in the thing, I said, Holy shit. And I said, What in the hell is this doing in my house? So I opened up the lid and there was this old lady laying in there, with this big lace collar around her neck, and her hair was puffed up behind her head, like that, was all gray. Burke: So I dont know if that was a ghost. So as long as I own it, I own it, theyll pay for it. And right there in front of the windows was a coffin with all the flowers around it and everything. Burke: Yes, there was a little man in New Jersey. And a friend of mine I was very good friendly with was John. Brooklyn Births: 1898-1909 Deaths: 1847-53, 1857-1948 Marriages: 1866-1949 *Pre-1898 records are for Brooklyn city only. But they are the ones thatup in arms, saying, Aww, that poor horse. Staten Island. So its a shame. And with the Air Force, I enjoyed every minute. And they repaired all these taxis, repainted them, and then sold them all to Cuba. As a young adult, he joined the U.S. Air Force and served in the medical department, spending time in locations across Europe and Alaska. Burke: But everything will stay here exactly as it is, because if its going to be a museum, people are not going to come in and look at empty walls. I was born right in the hospital across the street, and grew up 90% of my time on Staten Island until I became old enough and I joined the military. And my uncle came in and was part of the whole group. Burke: All that stuff from England? She was living in the house untilshe owned it until she died, and then I would take it over. Burke: Mario Buatta and a couple of people of his friends that were just as big. And he did these two chairs. I bet. So I still had to get up every day and go to work. They were all along the waterfront here. But that was the cistern for doing all the laundry and everything in the basement. Burke: Sure. Those stables? Burke: Well, if she left them there, she had to come back as a ghost and tell me that they were there! Yes. Dont forget I, for yearsin London, I went to university. I dont need The Death of Cleopatra hanging above my fireplace. Join Facebook to connect with George Burke and others you may know. Because I certainlyI never passed up a bargain. George Burke. He upholstered that chair with the things in the back. And if they were there and I could see them, and I could ship them free because the government had to ship it for me, and I had my sisters, who would store them for meI had had a great opportunity to pick up all this stuff that was beautiful, get it for nothing, and the government ship it back for me, and my sisters would keep it until I got a place to put it. But the old lady that lived there was very, very sick. What a shame. Thats what I was. That place took off like you couldnt believe. Q: Well, Im pretty much at the end of my questions. Burke: Yes. So I had all my goodies packed in a box, getting ready to go. Burke: Yes. Its some very wealthy unknown-known person who was there. Im giving nothing away. Burke: Yes, and I had a beautiful apartment for years in St. George. Most of them were little things. Create an obituary. Q: The Friends of the Seguine Mansionthe friends group. Daller: I mean, that big wrap-around porch that went all the way around the house. And what they did is they bought a whole fleet of old taxis. Its no different from home. Ario George Lazzari Ario George Lazzari, 82, passed away on February 26, 2023 at NYU Langone Hospital in Brooklyn, New York. Q: and Linda Daller for the New York Preservation Archive Project. So everything just kept going off and someone would have all of this, someone would have all of that. So because it was done like the French did, I never had to pay tax, or only tax on a two-story house, instead of a three-story. And I decided, well, Im going to pick up some nice buildings. Burke: Oh, well, when I was inI guess I was in England. You couldnt see the grounds through the trees and it was just covered and everything. I mean, I had a beautiful condo in Florida. Kathleen graduated from St. Peter's Girls High School in 1962. Then I got shipped to Europe. The only thing that will save this house as a bulldozer! [laughs] But anyway, I saved it. The front porch was up high. The ceilings had fallen down because a lot of the drain pipes had leaked. Did you know that from? And people were coming from all over the island. And she was laying with her arms, like that. Beloved husband of Rosanna (Ialuna) Burke. Burke: Oh my god. It was gorgeous and very ornatewas very, very much like Greek Revival. And then the people that moved out left a bunch of old furniture, and these were the two that they left. Burke: Oh, and then the house, when I bought it, everybodythe real estate lady, she wouldnt come in. He cant do this anymore. But things that, well, were thatyou needed carpenters that knew, that were good carpenters. Prepare a personalized obituary for someone you loved.. When he came he got everything going. And I said, Was that a dream? If you give me a big helping hand here. I said, You know, I dont make that much money. Tarrytown-Sleepy Hollow. Q: Right. I think hes given you a great history of what started and, basically, youve talked about his life from the beginning, so, I dont know. Daller: It was like, we cant even find him anymore. Oh, thats right. Christ, we had a good time. Syracuse. Unfortunately, you got to find environmentalists, theyve got to look for things and theyve got to point things out. Hes been maintaining it for forty-plus years. We have a choice in having a caretaker come in also to maintain it. Im joining the Air Force. So I went out and I joined the United States Air Force of course. Because people will come in, and therell be four or five people and somebody will walk by and just pick this up, and pick that up. And that was, Mrs.these mirrors came from that house, they were in the parlor in that houseWhat the hell was her name? And they were good investments. So the next day, Im up and Im outside. So one day, my sister Bess said to my mother and me, she said, Go pack. Theyd go in and theyd take the windows out and theyd use the windows, and they destroyed it. I just repainted. Sell the other half to Billthat was my brother and you and George, move with me to Florida. So we all thought that was a great idea. What a gorgeous home that was. And finally, we met with John Krawchuk, when he became in office. It was a mess of a mess. Special thanks to The Peggy N and Roger G Gerry Charitable Trust for their support to complete this initiative. Q: So well have audio recording and a transcript for researchersand Ill remove those names that you mentioned, Linda. Q: And did you keep records of the restoration process? Q: So its confidential becauseoh, okay. And then of course, being in New York and being in the thing like that, I got to be very, very good friends, with Scalamandr. Lookit, I saved the police station and the two buildings next to the police station. So itll be part of Staten Island that people, maybe fifty years from now when theres not a spot left, theyll all come out and theyll look and say, Wow, this is what it used to be.. So when he left the apartment and came to Staten Island, things started to move back into different sisters again until he was ready to relocate it again. So most of the stuff is Victorianturn of the century and Victorian. Yes. Because we went to about every Air Force base in Europe there was, and I got around to see everything. I saved it years and years ago. She said, Now you can save it., And I said, Well, I can save it. Or is that real? That was real. And I never had timesometimes Id be sleeping on the pool table there because I just couldnt leave! And it didnt take long to sell because it was a big piece of property, nice house. And that was the end of that. And Diane said, Oh, Marian has it.. And thats where I had all this wonderful carved stuff from the Eskimos that they gave me. They tear down one house and build five. Q: Yes. Burke: Right across the creek. Well. Q: Today is November 9, 2021. Christ, a good ten, twelve years. Daller: Right, we really dont discuss any of that. Would you sell me the acres in the front? I said, Gee, look at these chairs. And they said, Yes, look at them. What the woman who was caretaking her, what she had to do was constantly keep lilacs next to the bed. They even stopped you riding in the parks. Burke: What its been like for you to live here. And over the years, it became just prohibitive to try and do. The mansion was gorgeous! Burke: Well, Ill tell you, there wasnt that much in storagethe stuff that was in storage wasnt big pieces, maybe one or two. And he died young. The mayor and everybody else in the cityyou cant ride on the beach. That whole salon set there was a Victorian salon setand the couch is a camelback. And now theyre buildingI havent seen it, but Linda says its a huge house theyre building. If they brought flowers, it had to be lilacs. So I said, Oh. So that was thatI got that little story. I went to grammar school and high school here. And he come from a very, very wealthy family in Madrid. Burke: Yes. He spends time in every part of it. Daller: He did the sofa upstairs as well. I got one or two things out of it. We were only allowed so much. Burke: Okay. Is there anything, you think? Oh god, that was a gorgeous mansion. And, well, lets face it, they never had any hot water over there at all. And he asked me would I be interested in working for him out here on Staten Island. Oh, God, I worked so damn hard. Daller: Oh, yes. First thing I started with was the basement because it had four-foot of water in it. I mean, this was just a farmhouse. What a damn dream, there she was, laying in her coffin there, with her finger at me. And I said, Oh, shit. I had no idea that that was it, when I bought the house or anything. Oh, that was the ghost in Tottenville. Lets keep fighting it, because there was no way to fight. I want it now. I could never get it. And the house was like this, a big piece with two big wings. So I said, Well, Bess, if youre interested in doing it, Im interested in doing it.. Daller: Then you got rid of thatbut those are the early days. So I moved into the house here. Lets move out, youre being kicked out anyway, the house is sold. So thank you. So coming back to it was a change. But not long ago, I was talking about it. All that gorgeous porcelain, like the Flower Sellers Childrenits a big piece like that. Burn it down, put a candle in the middle of the hall. And my sister, Bess, she was married to Walter, her husband, who was in the Navy. And because of that, and especially the interior design thing, I went around, did little jobs, and did things, and because I learned so much by going to that to school there, that when I got back here, I got nice little jobs here and there. Im going to retire, Im going to go down to that big old house, restore it, fix it all up, move in it, and enjoy it. Save my house. And I thought, Oh, shit. I was down on the beach one day, I forgot what were doing. He was incurring all the expenses. And I got a big certificate for saving that. That was the mansion. And I had more bargains from Mrs. Murphy. And no ones going to be able to talk about it, and point things out, and say where it came from, or whats the history behind it. If you dont want to come dont show up. And he said since hes been here, he has nobody here. And Ed was very good at taking dents and things out of cars and he could spray paint. Help NYPAP document and celebrate NYCs preservation movement. They were gorgeous. I restored all those buildings down in Tottenville, all those great old buildings. In my early twenties? Its going to hell. We just mentioned him. Daller: But it feels like home. Thats what I wanted. So I would walk around, Id look and Id see some beautiful stuff for sale, for nothing. February 15, 2023 (81 years old) View obituary. By the time I got to the to where they were discharging them and such, he had just been discharged and left on an airplane. And I had to have somebody upstairs, standing on the stairs, and told me when to stop jacking, when the stairs got level, because the stairs were like this. Right? In fact, he was just a few years older than I, and wasnt it last year we were trying to locate him? Or next to the chair where she was sitting. Daller: Yes, definitely. And I would just would go around and Id just pick stuff up. Or is there a way for things to be changed? Nobody wants to do that. And then you could walk under the porch out into the garden. Burke: So that should pretty well cover it, I think. I restored that, and that was an old mansionan old pillar-fronted mansionlooked like the house, similar. And as I said, for a thing of whiskey or a bottle of wine, theyd give you anything, because none of them have had it for years and years. Email or phone: Password: . Staten Island was very early on, and then Florida, and then off to Europe. Burke: It was. Developers. I said to him, Are you kidding? Daller: He enjoys the whole house. Burke: Theyll come in, but youll have to have somebody as a guide. Now theyre worth a couple hundred-dollars apiece. And in the meantime, I made a couple of little investments and they turned out very well for me. She was great, I loved her. Daller: Mm-hmm. Daller: You met some interesting people there. And here was the street. And I want somebody to take care of it. So it just became a moot point. Burke: Greek revival. I thought for sure that would never go. Daller: Yes. Theyre deciding they want to build, so they tear down and build. Q: Your collection of the items that you bought from Mrs. Murphy. And as I said, I was in the military up there and we werent a big group of military, it was like a small base. George Burke Obituary It is always difficult saying goodbye to someone we love and cherish. I bet I left the cellar door open under the stairwell, from the basement, and I bet thats the soap Ive got in the washing machine that smells like that. Obituary George W. Burke, age 63, of Hull, entered into eternal rest on October 2, 2021. And when they werent in the house, they would go and buy them at the stores, and there was always lilacs in the house. And I was always a horse person. Everybody had left, and Bess and Marge were there, and Bess said to me, George, sit down. Q: And so when you were deciding what to collect, were you thinking about. And I renovated the bar, I renovated the other side, my two sisters came to work for me, running the kitchen and the dining room. Daller: Mm-hmm! This the expensive piece of property! They sold it to the developers. The son and his wife took over Scalamandr. I dont know what it is. So, thats it, I said, to hell with it. A couple of years ago, I painted them this color, didnt I? Daller: It just went right out of my head! Was very little time on here. Q: Did you start the restoration process at that house? And whats going on up the street here now? And places on Staten Island are being destroyed every minute of the dayyou find another house is goingand its happening in all the boroughs! And then, on the side of the house in the back, there was a little piece built out. Yes, Mrs. Mackey. That was a bigits still there. Thanks very much to you. But again, I dont know that Staten Island appreciates anything, because we had a Borough President at one time that we asked him a question about something and his answer to my uncle was, Well, why would you want to put a new suit on an old man?. I spent enough time breaking my back. So I got this on the front porch somewhere, nailed to the house, butdoesnt matter. In fact, my mother worked there. I can get that. Because you could get it through theand once I got involved, I did really, really well. And I worked there for quite a while, and I lived in the Bronx. Burke: Mario Buatta got me into all of that. Obituary George W. Burke, age 63, of Hull, entered into eternal rest on October 2, 2021. He also discusses the donation of the Seguine Mansion to the Historic House Trust, and his vision for the ongoing maintenance of the home and property. Thats what it is. It was similar, only bigger and more ornate. And Bill moved in, and he stayed there for quite a while. They were some kind of jewelry like that but I dont remember what it was. And I finally got to meet Mrs. Seguine because she had stables at that time. I was maybe nineteen, twentysomething like that. So I figured, oh, shit. You can retire. I forgot whose house it was. https://www.nypap.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/BurkeGeorge_20211109_access_redacted.mp3. But I put the kitchen in the basement and sealed up that, because once that filled up with water, it would leak into the basement. Burke: Oh, its in beautiful condition because the guy I told you, Jimmy Pistilli, he had it landmarked. Scarpaci Funeral Home of Staten Island LLC. And that painting of me, thats upstairs in my bedroomdid you ever see it? Q: And how did you decide, I guess, how to rebuild? In good condition? Burke - 1 - 2 and grew up 90% of my time on Staten Island until I became old enough and I joined the military. Its all part of history, and theyre just destroying it every way they can. But I forgot what the other two things were. And so I had all that stuff in my apartment. What are we gonna do here? So he said, Well, I really love doing this, George. And I said, Okay, John, thats fine. Births: July 1847-48, July 1853-1909 Deaths: 1795, 1802-04, 1808, 1812-1948 Marriages: June 1847-48, July 1853-1949 *Includes records for western Bronx, 1874-97, and eastern Bronx, 1895-97. Burke: Yes. I forgottheres ten acres that is landmarked now. And I had to laugh. Burke: Yes, I had to go down in the basement, and put a post, and then I had to jack up the stairs. He had come into my room when I was not there, stole everything. So it was fascinating. But alls I know, they closed in New York and they moved out there. Burke: Oh, yes. 06/26/1943 - 02/20/2023. But thats part of whats been going on down here. And the White Party we do in order to take care of doing cleanup on the lawn, doing any kind of plantings, or anything, because he did it all the years. And hes the one that did my portrait upstairs. Daller: Well, he said, he felt that house had spirits in it. [laughs] And I lived there for a long time. So every time she wants to go riding, she has to go all the way to New Jersey, ride her horse, and then come all the way back. I should really do something to save it. And it just was luck that I had just sold a real estate deal and made a lot of money. And I took that room and made it into the dining room. They were all six floor walkups and, thats where you lived! The Greek Revival house is one of the few surviving examples of 19th Century life on Staten Island. See Photos. I mean, look, theyve been trying to get rid of the carriage horses in the city, for how long now? Ive been to the Tenement Museum, and I love the fact that theres a woman on a loop and she discusses living in the apartment. It was piled up in their basement. And she had this woman who was a caretaker. Now the little girl had to be moved to Wall Street. 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