I am currently finishing up an Internet genealogy course based on the Thomas W. Jones book, Mastering Genealogical Proof. Ja9-1-3x Martin, mRev. Thanks for using Find a Grave, if you have any feedback we would love to hear from you. This flower has been reported and will not be visible while under review. They just go on ancestry.com and copy someone else's tree, and. or don't show this againI am good at figuring things out. Failed to report flower. mJohn Martin. Try again later. Quickly see who the memorial is for and when they lived and died and where they are buried. There is a problem with your email/password. There was a problem getting your location. Add to your scrapbook. Where history, genealogy and myth collide. Also, add shawano while your at it. Learn more about managing a memorial . Comments will be restricted to intelligent questions and concerns. The Tidewater region of Virginia was, at the time of Cleopatra's birth, under the control of a paramount chief who was and is known by the name Chief Powhatan, but whose real name was Wanhunaconacook (this is one of several contemporary spellings of his name). [26] xxxx Reynolds, [e-mail for private use] to Jeanie Roberts, e-mail, 6 November 2015, "False Indian Genealogy," local folders, Powhatan Indians, privately held by Jeanie Roberts [e-mail and address for private use] Texas, 2015. It reads: "Note: Dec. 17th, 1641 -- Thomas Rolfe petitions the governor to let him see Opechankeno to whom he is allied, and Cleopatra, his mother's sister.". It is important to note that the famous Matoaka portrait of Pocahontas was found in England in a Pettus home! Close this window, and upload the photo(s) again. You have chosen this person to be their own family member. Please enter a valid Memorial ID. . Save to an Ancestry Tree, a virtual cemetery, your clipboard for pasting or Print. An email has been sent to the person who requested the photo informing them that you have fulfilled their request, There is an open photo request for this memorial. The downside of so much internet research is there's no accountability. Your Scrapbook is currently empty. You have chosen this person to be their own family member. Failed to delete memorial. Ja12-1Christian Pettus, born about 1636 or 1637, known to have had much Indian blood. We formed a genealogy research group several years ago (nikitie@yahoogroups.com.) Very little information about her is known with certainty. Who knew genealogy was so easy, it only took me a week to complete my tree and here's the exciting bit, I'm related to Sitting Bull, Henry VIII and Charlemagne. Reynard is my 7th great-grandfather. There was an error deleting this problem. Try again later. From there back the family line gets a little mixed up. Year should not be greater than current year. You cannot merge a memorial into itself. or don't show this againI am good at figuring things out. Their oral history of Pocahontas goes on to tell us that after she was kidnapped by the English, her Indian husband, Kocoum was murdered. Include gps location with grave photos where possible. A system error has occurred. All photos appear on this tab and here you can update the sort order of photos on memorials you manage. Do you have a 'research' question about Cleopatra? Not validated, they are user contributions, Chief Nemattanon Don Luis de Velsco Japasaw my 15th great grandfather, Nemattanon alias Don Luis de Velasco, Chief Powatan, taken by the Spanish when he was young and returned many years later. Thomas is the central figure in another myth connected to Cleopatra. There are no volunteers for this cemetery. It is possible that John Smith and others asked Powhatan about his ancestors, but the names were not recorded, and if they were I believe they have been written like his, Wahunsenacawh (the original English spelling), and not some dubious English translation. Born about 1602 in Orapaks, Virginia, United States, Daughter of Wahunsenacawh Powhatan and Amopotuskee (UNKNOWN) Powhatan, Sister of Nanatahoack Powhatan, Mehta Powhatan, Tahacoope Quiquocohannock Powhatan, Cleopatra Scent Flower (Scent Flower) Powhatan, Tomoco Powhatan,Mantequos Powhatan, Taux Powhatan, Parahunt Powhatan, Namontack Powhatan,Cornstalk Wind Clan Powhatan, Quimca Powhatan, Pochins Powhatan, Secotin Powhatan, Opachankeno Powhatan, Nataquos Powhatan, Pamouic Powhatan, Mehtafe Powhatan, Matachanna Powhatan, Tatacoope the Shawano Powhatan, Powcanoe Powhatan, Taux the Shawano Powhatan, Secotin Powhatan, Mantequos Powhatan,Pochins the Shawano Powhatan, Pamouic Powhatan, Mahtafe Powhatan, Tahacoope Quiquocohannock Powhatan, Matoaka Amonute Powhatan, Namontack Powhatan, Nantaquas the Shawano Powhatan, Quimeca Powhatan, Parahunt the Shawano Powhatan,Cleopatra Powhatan, Tomoco Powhatan and Unknown Powhatan, Wife of Opechancanough Mangopeesomon Opechan Stream Powhatan married[date unknown] [location unknown], Mother of Nicketti Mangopeesomon Opechan Powhatan and Hokolesqua Opeechan Stream (Cornstalk) Shawnee, Died 1680 in Henrico, Virginia, United States. Save to an Ancestry Tree, a virtual cemetery, your clipboard for pasting or Print. A researcher will evaluate the evidence and then make their own logical conclusion. He traveled to Madrid and met with King Philip II, and spent some time in the New World, visiting Mexico City. He had created the empire through conquest and alliances. A super researcher will look for the original sources of my sources. Most ancestors hunters fall into one of two categories; searcher or researcher. If you notice a problem with the translation, please send a message to [emailprotected] and include a link to the page and details about the problem. For memorials with more than one photo, additional photos will appear here or on the photos tab. Your account has been locked for 30 minutes due to too many failed sign in attempts. This myth has been thoroughly investigated and found to be totally false. [16] Helen Rountree also says that there was another daughter whose marriage was recorded, but whose name was not. Hokolequa, for a nice change, was a real Indian and his life is documented. Cleopatra obviously was not her Indian name, but rather what she was called by the colonists because since her husband was the successor ruling Chief/Emperor she was in fact Queen. Or who was her mother? In fact here are his exact words: I say they often reported unto us that Powhaan had then lyving twenty sonnes and ten daughters, besyde a young one by Winganuske, Machumps his sister, and a great darling of the Kings; and besides young Pocohunta, a daughter of his using sometyme to our fort in tymes past, now married to a private captain called Cocoum, some two years since. There was a problem getting your location. Thanks Debbie. All photos uploaded successfully, click on the Done button to see the photos in the gallery. Also on board was the new Lt. Aaron Brock/ Red Bird (father of Jesse Brock) vs. the Genealogical Proof System, Join Amazon Kindle Unlimited 30-Day Free Trial. Edit a memorial you manage or suggest changes to the memorial manager. Thomas Rolfe was the son of John Rolfe and Pocahontas. Historian Helen C. Rountree suggests Cleopatra may (or may not) have been Matachanna, a sister of Pocohantas who married the priest Uttamanakin: https://www.geni.com/documents/view?doc_id=6000000095209279076& From Pg. Use the links under See more to quickly search for other people with the same last name in the same cemetery, city, county, etc. Oops, something didn't work. [19] However, upon his return, Don Luis reverted to his Indian heritage, cast off his Christianity and slaughtered all the Jesuit Priests, dramatically ending any hope the Spanish had for adding Virginia to their list of conquests. They had a child named Goldenhawk Sizemore. Continuing with this request will add an alert to the cemetery page and any new volunteers will have the opportunity to fulfill your request. Edit a memorial you manage or suggest changes to the memorial manager. The internet tells us a very different story about the life of Cleopatra. In reading other histories, however, it is necessary to note that some writers use the term Powhatan for both brothers interchangeably which is unnecessarily confusing and actually incorrect. Use Escape keyboard button or the Close button to close the carousel. Try again later. This proof was located in the old library of the Maryland Historical Society, an item of three lines covering eleven years. One of the wives' named was Winganuske. Resend Activation Email, Please check the I'm not a robot checkbox, If you want to be a Photo Volunteer you must enter a ZIP Code or select your location on the map. According to an ancestry app I could be related as well but I would like to be able to prove it. Learn more about merges. cemeteries found within miles of your location will be saved to your photo volunteer list. The Powhatan Tribes were a matrilineal society, with leadership of the tribe inherited through the mother. Add to your scrapbook. Failed to delete memorial. As manager of this memorial you can add or update the memorial using the Edit button below. Chief Ensenore Algonquin Pohantan (1500 - 1558) Mother. Now, how many people who say they are descended from Thomas Rolfe have changed their family tree once they read that oral history? He had 3 brothers Opitchapan, Opechancanough (said to have married Cleopatra, sister of Pocahontas), and Catataughm1unknown, Princess who was probably either a sister or more likely the daughter of a maternal aunt or granddaughter of a maternal great aunt and daughter of one of the chiefs of a tribe of the realm. Widely varying theoretical dates are given in internet postings by professional and amateur researchers. I have always been serious about my genealogy, but this class has helped me evaluate/reevaluate not only my research process, but that of others. Some say Opechancanough "Mangopeesomon", paramount chief of the Powhatan was her husband. The 'matta' in Mattachana indicates that her mother was of that tribe. http://www.genealogy.com/ftm/b/o/l/Michelle-A-Bollar/WEBSITE-0001/U http://boards.ancestry.com/thread.aspx?o=20&m=1.6.10.1&p=topics.eth http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=10179459. Please enter your email address and we will send you an email with a reset password code. Some of the families who carry the traditional descent from Pocahontas and Kocoum are: Martin, Threlkeld, Porch, Sullivan, Fugate, Roberson, Curtis, Limbrick, Newton, Green, Butler, Courtney, Humphries, Brown, Jett, Peyton/Payton, Chilton, Burton, Hudson, Jones, Cox, Grigsby, Bates, Berry, Kitchen, Fines, Chinn, McGuire, Payne, Rollow, and many others. This account has been disabled. Many of the modern surnames in the dictionary can be traced back to Britain and Ireland, Do not sell or share my personal information. m2Winganuske, Princess eldest of the two sisters of Chief Powatan, sister of Machumps. Po14-2a son. So ask yourself, are you a searcher or a researcher? Use it as a starting point, but like any good genealogist, seek confirmation in original, primary sources. Let me know if you have anything I don't or if you find any new 'evidence'. As this man was born some sixty years after the death of Opechancanough, simple math should tell you that it is not possible for him to be his son. Many of the Sizemore's are decended from this union as one of Goldenhawk's descendants was George All Sizemore, who had some 50+ children. Found more than one record for entered Email, You need to confirm this account before you can sign in. The email does not appear to be a valid email address. Winganuske's parents are believed to be The Great King of the Patawomeck and Wahunsenacawh's oldest sister (neither of their names are known), making Winganuske Powhatan's niece as well as his wife. William Deyo, official Pamunkey tribal historian, said, "Rachel Powhatan would not have been a sister of Pocahontas but a cousin (born about 1600). No animated GIFs, photos with additional graphics (borders, embellishments. This manuscript is an 18th century copy of the Bland Manuscript which is in turn a copy of some of Virginia's original records. Matachanna Shawano Powhatan, "Find A Grave Index" - severe misinformation on the memorial. ___________________________________________________________________________________________. The colonists referred to him as simply The Powhatan, denoting his position as emperor over numerous tribal chiefs of the Powhatan nation. Searchers jump from ancestry tree to ancestry tree looking for one that "proves" Grandma right. Thanks for your help! You can customize the cemeteries you volunteer for by selecting or deselecting below. Learn how your comment data is processed. Try again later. I thought you might like to see a memorial for Rachel Matachanna Powhatan Croshaw I found on Findagrave.com. Opechancangough became Mangopeesomon. Arlington, Arlington County, Virginia, United States, ChiefPoechancanough of the Algonquian Nation Nonomo(Algonquian) Powhatan. Powhatan lived long, and allegedly had 100 wives, with one child by each. Sorry! [5] Natalie Zacek, "William Strachey 1572-1621". Birth: 1602 Virginia, USA Death: 1641 Virginia, USA, d/o Emperor Wahunsonacock Big Chief Powhatan, Burial: Mardela Memorial Cemetery Mardela Springs Wicomico County Maryland, USA, Created by: Lisa Coy Record added: Jul 07, 2015 Find A Grave Memorial# 148810018. For Rachel to have the bloodline of the matrilineal royal succession, she had to have been a daughter or granddaughter of Powhatan's sister, whom I believe was the wife of the Great King of Patawomeck. Did Great Grandma tell you that you were related to someone on the Mayflower? For memorials with more than one photo, additional photos will appear here or on the photos tab. Step three; analyse sources to assess their usefulness. But here's the problem, Machumps never named the children of Powhatan. There are no volunteers for this cemetery. When the King of Patawomeck called Opitchipam his brother, it was because he was actually his brother by marriage rather than his real brother, as by the words of Powhatan, himself, he only had 3 brothers by his mother (Opitchipam, Opechancanough, and Keckatough). A researcher will read and reread the article, make notes and look at the sources. You are only allowed to leave one flower per day for any given memorial. Thanks for your help! To view a photo in more detail or edit captions for photos you added, click the photo to open the photo viewer. Pocahontas was a Native American woman, belonging to the Powhatan people, notable for her association with the colonial settlement at Jamestown, Virginia. Where did you get your information? When Cleopatra was born in 1602, in Virginia, United States, her father, Chief Mamanatowick Wahunsenacawh Powhatan, was 56 and her mother, UNKNOWN MOTHER and WIFE of Powhatan NOT WINGANUSKE, was 32. . Becoming a Find a Grave member is fast, easy and FREE. Okay, so what are we looking at here. , (http://www.americanindianmagazine.org/story/pocahontas-first-marriage?page=show : Spring 2014 issue; accessed 1 November 2015). When the Jamestown colonists arrived, Wahunsunacocks domain encompassed the entire region that was to become Virginia. Any inappropriate comments will be deleted and/or reported. King James had Powhatan coronated Emperor of Virginia. (http://www.encyclopediavirginia.org/strachey_william_1572-1621 : accessed 20 October 2015). Quickly see who the memorial is for and when they lived and died and where they are buried. Research genealogy for Cleopatra Powhatan of Tsenacomoca, Pamunkey, Virginia Colony, as well as other members of the Powhatan family, on Ancestry. Year should not be greater than current year. The sponsor of a memorial may add an additional. Her exact date of birth is not known but it is estimated that she was born about 1570, in the Patawomeck head village. Please enter your email and password to sign in. Please ensure you have given Find a Grave permission to access your location in your browser settings. These trees can change over time as users edit, remove, or otherwise modify the data in their trees. A third type of Searcher is the one who already knows the answer. Also were did that family name of Cornstalk come from? Thank you. Search above to list available cemeteries. All photos uploaded successfully, click on the Done button to see the photos in the gallery. Thomas and his son, Moytoy, with other Shawnee moved into Cherokee territory founding the town Running Water. Shortly after they arrived they began to build an outpost on the Pamunkey River near a village whose people were subjects to Don Luis' family. Mother of Toby West (Chief Totopotomoy of the Pamunkey) by Thomas West, 3rd Lord de la Warr, circa 1616.Her Powhatan name was Matachanna. This is a carousel with slides. We collect and match historical records that Ancestry users have contributed to their family trees to create each persons profile. You can contact the owner of the tree to get more information. Matachanna Shawano Powhatan, "Find A Grave Index" - severe misinformation on the memorial. I would urge you to tread with caution when using the books as a source for your genealogy. [6], William Strachey was appointed secretary and recorder of the council set up by the new Governor. To view a photo in more detail or edit captions for photos you added, click the photo to open the photo viewer. After nine years away from home, he longed to return to his homeland. Oops, some error occurred while uploading your photo(s). Your Scrapbook is currently empty. Forget about Murmuring Ripple, Dashing Stream and Morning Scent Flower and all those other names you see on the internet because they belong in a file folder labeled junky genealogy. Chief was born on June 17 1545, in Werowocomoco, Pamunkey River, Virginia. (ref., Shawnee Heritage by Don Greene; also Monteith Family and the Potomac Indians by William Deyo). Was she the same person as Matachanna, of the Powhatan? Are you sure that you want to remove this flower? Are you sure that you want to delete this memorial? She accompanied Pocahontas on her trip to England in 1616. Matachanna had 15 siblings: Tahacope Powhatan, Rachel Croshaw (born Powhatan) and 13 other siblings. Please keep your comments polite and on-topic. (See Shawnee Heritage by Don Greene. , (http://www.encyclopediavirginia.org/don_lua#start_entry : accessed 31 October 2015). What does 'the shawano' mean? Princess Matachanna Aka Cleopatra Powhatan . 0 cemeteries found in King William, King William County, Virginia, USA. William Deyo, official Pamunkey tribal historian, said, "Rachel Powhatan would not have been a sister of Pocahontas but a cousin (born about 1600). Try again. Please be thoughtful, leave your sources if you are making a claim. Early West family historian Leonard West theorized her Christian name was Rachel Powhatan, based on the frequency of the name Rachel among the Croshaw descendants. To add a flower, click the Leave a Flower button. Her date of death is also not known but was sometime after 1611, when Strachey recorded she was traveling with Powhatan and had a 'young one' by him. Pocahontas also had a brother named Nataquoud. Matoaka Pocahontas Powhatan 1595 - 1617. The as yet unnamed matriarch of this dynasty would have been born about 1550 had 4 sons as follows and succeeded in Reign as Chief Powatan, leaving a a realm of six tribes Po15Wahunsenacawh, Sachem, Chief Powatan. To use this feature, use a newer browser. During her captivity Pocahontas was brutally raped, possibly by Sir Thomas Dale. So, again, thank you. First, there is the serious searcher. GREAT NEWS! Some say circa 1595. With the capture of Pocahontas in 1613, Powhatan sued for peace. https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/138241640/rachel-croshaw. (LogOut/ This should send up red flags for any researcher who is looking for documented evidence. My name is Eric Anderson his distant grandson and I live in the Philadelphia area. I thought you might like to see a memorial for Cleopatra Powhatan I found on Findagrave.com. You are only allowed to leave one flower per day for any given memorial. Verify and try again. Resend Activation Email. She is my 4th great-grandmother on my mothers side. Gathered from those who lived during the same time period , were born in the same place, or who have a family name in common. It came about after her alliance in marriage in 1614 to John Rolfe, a leading tobacco planter. Please enter your email and password to sign in. At the death of the elderly Wahunsunacock, his younger brother [its uncertain if he was a brother or a half-brother] Opchanacanough became successor to Wahunsunacock as emperor. It has been suggested that Don Luis and Opechancanough are one and the same. Matachanna Cleopatra Powhatan. As such, he is frequently also called The Powhatan. You only have to watch one episode of The Genealogy Roadshow to see people's oral history researched and revealed as fiction. Smith wrote about him later saying he was the most manliest, comeliest and boldest spirit he has seen in a "savage". To use this feature, use a newer browser. Goldenhawk left the Powhatan's to live in the "white" world. Nicketti Powhatan b. in England, where he spent some time. [12] Another weroance was a son of Powhatan was Pochins; Strachey said he was the young weroance of Kecoughtan. based on information from your browser. , (Charlottesville: University of Virginia Press, 2005). Try again later. [8] William Strachey and Richard Henry Major. Are you sure that you want to report this flower to administrators as offensive or abusive? Oral history can be a great resource for genealogy. Please check your email and click on the link to activate your account. This relationship is not possible based on lifespan dates. They were a royal dynasty and keep in mind that the family lineage was preserved by most Native Americans, as they still do now, through the matriarchal line. Translation on Find a Grave is an ongoing project. Now if you were paying attention and recall that Opehanacanough and Wahusunacock were brothers/half-brothers, you might realize that she was also Opechanacanoughs niece [or half-niece as the case may be]. Multiple ancestress of the Sullivan family, known to have had much Indian blood but who did not know the name of their Indian ancestor. "Tribal historians say she later married Col. Joseph Croshaw, burgess, and became the mother of several of his children, including possibly (as some say) Unity Croshaw who married John West II, nephew of Thomas West, Lord de la Warr, and first cousin of Toby West. The first weroance described was Parahunt, who Strachey said was a son of Powhatan.
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