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Ive driven through Mendocino and farther north many times, but havent seen bearing avocados growing up there with my own two eyes. Make sure that you water the tree every day to retain the moisture, and remove it to an area that still gets sunlight during cold weather moths, but is protected from frosts and freezes (a large sunny room is perfect). I have not been able to get a clear answer as to why this is not grown in South Florida. It seems that Reed has the advantage in terms of fruit production. Avocados love it just above 70. Both ornamental and fruit trees are being affected, Its only about 8 miles to the Tijuana River valley from here which Im told is having a serious problem with shot hole borers, hope Im wrong but that may be the problem. The texture and taste were very very good, top notch, with only a couple of very minor fibers. When it comes to Avocado, Temecula is the place to buy all your Avocado trees, famous for best Avocados in the WORLD. Which basically means it may be grafted on just anything. Some of them are relegated to a lower tier because of flavor (Zutano); some arent productive enough (Holiday). In my yard, Reeds start to taste good as early as May, and can go through September. My Reed, as well as those I know nearby, does relatively well. It just does not seem logical) But later I read, that often Fuerte is not a reliable cropper. Our greenhouse has 14ft ceilings. We do have a small green house, but its not really large enough for an avocado tree of any size unless we leave it in a pot, which would limit its productivity. It generates more than $1 billion a year in revenues in the U.S. And it all started with one tree planted by a postman in his own backyard. The purpose behind the mass flowering is to encourage visits by pollen vectors. While Dusa is the global standard today, it does not perform best in all conditions with all scion varieties. I dont know the nursery it is originally from. They grow far better in the mild temperatures near the beach than they do in my yard which is twenty miles from the ocean. For anyone counting net carbs, avocados are simply amazing. I wish I could visit that old Puebla. The fruit of domestic varieties have smooth, buttery, golden-green flesh when ripe. One of them doesnt deliver to France. Fruit may have a larger seed when grown in rainy areas. Both have excellent tasting fruit. I think they do not sell avocado trees on Dusa in nurseries, because it is still under licence (I had to pay a bit more for the patent and had to communicate to Brokaw the addresses of the orchards). The problem with Fuerte is that it tends to grow horizontally so youd have to be vigilant about training it up a stake and pruning as necessary. Thanks. Yes, Atkins is a great source of uncommon avocado varieties. Then youll still be lacking in winter. Your message is very fun for me to read. Fuerte and Sharwil are going to be harvested starting before Hass, and Nabal has a later season than Hass. The only tough part is that you must whitewash exposed bark. Thats a cool question. Hi Robert, I wrote to the manager, asked if they had avocado trees available, sent a bank transfer, did the arrangements for the shipping and the trees were delivered to Nice. Thanks again! We have acreage The Land located above Hilo, Hawaii, at 800 foot elevation. This is one of the reasons that Hass went from obscurity in 1945 to over 95 percent of the commercial avocado production in California today. Sharwil avocados have a dense, nutty flavor and a high oil content. And thats what a five- compared to fifteen-gallon tree is: younger. Holiday doesnt produce great in the heat (or even without heat) compared to Pinkerton. Im guessing youre referring to Van Nuys as being slightly cooler in winter (compared to spots closer to the beach). Hi! In my climate (Ramona), we can get heat waves of 100 degrees in May or June while fruitlets are still small and vulnerable. I didnt protect my Reed with shade cloth when I first planted it, and my paint protection was not enough to prevent the top being seriously burned so I lost about 18-24 inches on the top. I planted a Hass and a Fuerte in a fairly small backyard in the Pt Loma/Sunset cliffs area. This is important information indeed. If you ever go wine tasting up here, the huge Puebla and another large tree which sounded like a Zutano but it could be some other old variety they are at Farella Vineyard in Napa. A lesser-known variety but one still popping up in supermarkets is the mighty Florida avocado, also sometimes called the Dominican avocado. (Not that Pinkerton avocados arent delicious though. (I have to confess this is a real problem of our nation.. No information whatsoever about rootstocks in the nurseries And then people are surprised that their cherry or apricot trees dont fruit). Thanks for these comments. I read that Duke 7 (American) and Dusa (South African) are to this day the best rootstocks. I am curious to hear your thoughts on these varieties or think something else would be better suited. And the sharwil does not have the nutty notes like the hass. 7. Thank you in advance for your assistance. I saw such a video recently displaying some trees in the front yard of friends of mine down here in San Diego County and it made me very angry. Just a couple days ago, I visited the largest organic avocado orchard in California, and they recently planted a lot of Sharwil trees. In the meantime, there are heaps of other varieties that are already publicly available to explore. 1 year old Pinkerton on unknown seedling North-south orientation works well since morning and afternoon sun will hit all trees almost equally. Avocado flowers are cross-pollinated which means that developing independent genetic lines is difficult. I have read about predator mites to purchase but not sure how to apply them. Thank you so much for your answer. Tamp the soil down around the tree's . Multi-grafted avocado trees can work. But unfortunately, there was a huge heat wave in July-August 2022, and the young Hass died of sunburn. Kona Sharwil Avocado. I concluded that it was worth growing. 3 Advertisements West Indian (Persea americana Mill. If they dont get a good start to life, they usually struggle forever. The fruit is set in huge numbers uniformly throughout the tree. Sadly, there are fewer and fewer every year. Youre right Walter. We will also compliment with other varieties to have ripe fruit all year, (varieties including malama, yamagata, ota, murashiga, kahaluu, fujikawa), for value added products. If we are successful. The tree eventually began to die, when I cut it down the center of the large branches were black. On June 10 and 11 last year (2019), my yard reached 100 both days. https://gregalder.com/yardposts/protecting-avocado-trees-from-heat/. After watching your wonderful Fuerte tree video I was inspired and replaced my young Ettinger for the real thing besides Fuerte might be my personal favorite flavor probably because I remember the taste of Fuerte guacamole as a kid. Thank you so much for the great articles, and for your personal attention and replies. For the summer/fall varieties, Im unsure about Gwen. I hope you didnt get snow where you are, because a few weeks ago when I was there, it was COLD and rainy. CA avocados like Lamb Hass don't do well in FL and vice versa. And then theres your commitment to pruning. First, there is no best rootstock. Thanks again for all the information. Or maybe scratch all those and go with GEM or Gwen? Riverside to Thanks so much for this update. Its season should complement the GEM even better, and the growing pattern seems like its columnar as well. Kona Sharwil avocado was introduced in Australia and is now a major commercial variety in Hawaii. Medium thickness of skin - Sharwil and Hass - handles shipping better than thin-skinned varieties (Kahaluu); easier for consumer to determine ripeness than thick-skinned varieties (Murashige, Yamagata). Very happy with my Zutano. Avocado trees produce thousands of flowers and only about one in 5000 sets fruit. Ive seen numerous examples of this throughout Southern California. Thank you for all the great information! On the other hand, if a tree doesnt have a heavy set and you want to try to prevent the few fruitlets that it has set from dropping, the best thing you can do is make sure it doesnt become stressed from heat or thirst. So surprised I bought one to see how well it works as a hedge as you mentioned in another article. Sir-Prize is a very good avocado but I dont think its quite as good as those three, especially for your situation since its harvest season is only a little before Hass and overlapping with Hass. Wonder what that was all about. Oval-shaped and dark-green in color, the Choquette avocado originated in Florida and is a mix of two different types - Guatemalan and West Indian. [About our soil: it is not acid at all, for sure. Thank you! A handsome tree to about 9m x 10m, Hass is fairly cold and frost tolerant once established, and will bear its delicious fruit between September and January. I wanted to say I appreciate all you do with your website and videos. Im leaning towards Bacon and Lamb Hass. http://www.avocadosource.com/Journals/2_Seminario/2_Seminario_Talks_Kohne_Rootstocks.pdf, This is when I realised the tremendous importance of the rootstock (some rootstocks have three times bigger yields than the others!). Should we take all the trees out and start new? Of course, they dont understand the function of that leaf litter. There are other varieties that taste as good or possibly slightly better than Hass. come up with some heat resistant varieties. Thanks. I really appreciate reading your expert advice and opinion about your experiences. Maybe I shouldnt have put Reed in that list, but Reed isnt as vigorous as some other varieties such as Bacon, Fuerte, or Hass. One, how well does your Fuerte produce? I live in San Diego, about 7 miles away from the coast. It doesnt make great guacamole, but its excellent on sandwiches and in smoothies. Thanks a lot for contributing this. Thanks for the response. The problem is that theres so much to say. I also purchased a Sharwill and Green Gold from Atkins Nursery last year, but they arent the best trees as they were burned pretty bad from last summers heat wave. When they set a lot like your trees have, they must shed some or else branches will break, get sunburned, even die back from the stress of growing too much fruit. Great to hear! Flowering and pollination. Step 6. Conventional belief is that avocados were first brought to the Hawaiian territory in the very early 1800s by Don Francisco de Paula Marin, Kamehameha the Great's interpreter and confidant. 3 years old Hass on Mexican race seedling; unknown type And along with Reed and Hass, Id have a great threesome in a backyard because Fuertes season starts a couple months before Hass. Im torn though We have a small space with good sunlight and drainage in our yard that is probably 12 x 12 for this tree. However, I did a lot of research, and read dozens of artciles in English, mostly about growing avocados in the US and all the different varieties (when it come to planting something new, I pay a lot of attention to the variety choice) The Florida avocado. I use foam or bubble insulation to wrap the trunks of my baby trees their first winter. Same for my Sharwil and the Sharwils I know nearby, except that Im not sure theyll produce quite as much as Reed. The tree bears regular crops of large, round fruit of exceptional eating quality. impossible (or almost impossible) to ship American varieties from the US to Europe. Ive never bought from Clausen but have heard good results from a friend who has bought avocado trees there. Seemed very mature, almost overmature, as the seed had germinated and the root was touching the peel on the bottom, and the seedcoat did not adhere to the seed. As a matter of fact, choosing the varieties was just the beginning)))) Full sun Ill do it again this summer to figure out where not to plant less heat tolerant plants. I am a huge fan of Hawaiian varieties and I am highly considering grafting Kahaluu to one of the trees. Ive never tasted one but wondering how it compares to Reed and Hass in your opinion. Thanks for everything. I live in southern CA zone 10b near Los Angeles. Reed (another type A variety) was a late season flowerer. (I prefer this to their compost, which is a bit overcooked and too fine for my liking. 2 Reed (on Dusa) for me and the cathedral, and one Bacon (on Dusa) for the cathedral. I have learned so much from your website, Thank You. Im also wondering if I might be happier going with a pair of smaller trees that let me enjoy avocados closer to year-round. I was considering planting coastal live oak at first but now leaning towards fruit (avocado) tree instead. And, green gold, very prolific, and a good pollinator. Pinkerton seems to never drop fruit in the heat. Some percentage of fruitlet drop always happens, due to incomplete pollination and other unknown factors. About high-density avocado plantings: I visited a grove that has been doing it for decades and theyve found that the spacing that works in the long run depends on the variety. I completely understand and I agree. Where approximately in Northern California are you located? Im very close to cutting mine down. So you dont want to prevent the drop of fruitlets if the set is heavy. It was at Lowes with just an Ettinger tag. Im also always unsure what Im going to find at these types of stores, which is why I always have a look when Im shopping there. Im considered to be in zone 9, and yet my Reed does well. Its significantly bigger than Hass, as seen in the photo above, andReed also stays green when its ripe. The Hass has a ton and the Fuerte as well. The flesh had nice color, tasted rich and smooth. We got a Hass today, and were planning to plant it tomorrow in the sunniest spot in our yard, which usually stays pretty warm, even when its chilly. Note that Im really tentative about saying this. Ive been looking for a long time where could I purchase sharwil avocados. If either gets too tall for your picking needs, just give it a haircut! Id like to try out that variety. For anyone in the bay area I recommend Pinkerton and Lamb. They grow and mature on the tree, but they only ripen (soften) after being picked, after their stem is severed. Wish Id read something like this a few years ago. Most of the other retail nurseries buy from the same wholesale growers (La Verne and Durling). Its not the worst soil in the world, as many fruit trees as growing nicely here, but which types of Avocado you think would thrive best in these conditions clay-ish soil, can be quite wet in winter and hot and super dry in the summer? But there are a lot of B types whose fruit I love so Im starting to keep my B types smaller or graft them into A types and eliminate their whole trees. Will likely be going with a Sir Prize based on that fact, but Eli at Subtropica has all available, its just so tempting to get all three and just try to plant the reed on the other side of the property. Now I am wondering if I will regret having a Bacon paired with my Hass instead of getting a Fuerte. I think Ill pick a few avocados that you mentioned (knowing me Ill get to the store and come back with seven) Call me crazy but I just ordered 10 thermometers that record the max/min temp on my property. These trees had a bit more shade and sprinklers watering. These are varieties that take a long time to get big enough to be useful as shade trees compared to other varieties. I will be planting your suggested trio this spring. See my short video profile of Pinkerton avocado fruit here.). I have never tasted anything but supermarket Hass from distant lands so all I can do is read or watch videos of people describing how each variety tastes like. The tree is vigorous and upright, but apparently can be keep to about 2.5 metres in height by intensive pruning. Big and green are the two fatal qualities that prevent Reeds acceptance as a commercial variety in todays small and black Hass world. Im considering a 6 X 10 planting. All these years I couldnt figure what it was. I picked up the last Reed from Walter Andersens last week and a little Fuerte. The tree looks healthy and fruitful: auspicious for your plantings. Its me from up North again. I feel like all of them doesnt have a good overlap in terms of flowering season, what can i do to make sure they get polinated enough? GEM with a friend is a great idea. The main difference is that GEM is a smaller tree, if that matters to you. If the only Hass avocados youve had are from the grocery store, then you have no idea. As far as Reed vs. Sharwil for this type of climate, Id tentatively give the edge to Reed. I am jealous you are growing all those Hawaiian varieties and am interested in what you have to say about taste once that time comes and how the trees are doing. I have a 60% shade cloth for my Fuerte. So I could eat Fuerte starting in the late fall, then switch to Hass in the spring, and pick Reeds from the summer until almost when the next crop of Fuerte is ready. Truth is, youll probably be happy with either a Reed or a Sharwil in every way. You must love seeing snow on Baldy right now. We are also planting 14 varieties of guaranteed dwarf coconut trees for seed to grow future dwarf coconut seed farms on all islands. But where to find this information otherwise? Where do you guys find Reeds in San Diego? My goal is to help others grow food at home, with a focus on vegetables and fruits -- especially avocados -- in Southern California. That tree eventually did die. (and even Home Depot) you can get a Reed avocado tree grown by La Verne or Durling. Pinkerton, If I was going to do it again here in the Southern Vic, I'd just go for Hass and Reeds mostly with maybe three Bacons and an Ettinger for a pollinator. You have me sold on the year-round Hass prospect. I sprayed today and will keep it up. We have/had four avo trees planted next to each other. Grows the best long-term in the ground. So with just these two trees, Id have the highest quality avocados in the world for most months of the year. This way youll likely have some years with fruit on all but some years where the tender ones get some damage. Theyre both great varieties, and good complementary trees for a Reed. It is probably the climate but since I have been surprised by other varieties nothing like finding out for . I see a lot of posts about cold tolerant avocado trees, how about heat tolerant (besides reed)? In 1992, the USDA banned shipment of the Sharwil avocados after an oriental fruit fly larva was found in a Hawaiian packinghouse that processed Sharwil avocados and other local produce. Share a photo if you get a chance. Would appreciate any information that you might wish to share! Asking them to prune 3X a year I think is questionable. 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